
Conclusion Ice Wars investigation:
This investigation started Xmas of 2004 when I received the Jason King books Cannabible 1&2. The section on hashish is what got my curiosity going. I had spent most of my adult life smoking, smuggling, selling hashish and pride myself in the many Hash producing countries I visited. I wrote a book about all of this and it’s called the King of Nepal.
In November of 2005 Icecold.org finally received their patent for Ice Water Extraction Method from Ottawa and Munich to go along with their US patent from 2000. They had 9 years to challenge this new innovation and finally the method patent was issued for the biggest improvement in resin extraction and hashish making in 4000 years, the Ice Water technique!
After reading the King book, I bought the Robert C. Clarke book on Hashish, which was quoted and used in the King book. The first thing I questioned was Sadhu Sam’s water separation recipe and the claims that it was his and Neville’s invention as I had seen that same technique used in Pakistan and Afghanistan in 1973 and had even sold Afghan water hash in the late 1960’s in NYC. Water separation was used by the local hash masters to clean up adulterated resin before pressing, the technique being that plant material floats while the heavy resins glands sink in water. Sadhu Sam was selling this recipe in High Times!
Sadhu Sam is also known as Skunkman now resides in Amsterdam. He is the main culprit in the biggest rip-off in Cannabis consumer history. First of all let me state that Ice Water Extraction made sieving obsolete. This is where the rip off begins, none of these idiots like Bubbleman or Skunkman, or any other pirated unlicensed bag systems using ice water extraction have read the patent!!! The patent says quite clearly that now there is no need to process material or dry material, for the first time fresh material introduced into Ice Water environment, the leaves stayed flexible while the frozen trichomes fall off. It ended all traditional processing techniques.
In fact the original machine Xtractor 420 as well as the new model 1000 uses only one screen, yet they offer you 5-7-8 bag systems, sold using the patented method as profit multiplier and precede to show you how to destroy your dope in order to buy their bags. The introduction of Ice Water Extraction to sieving is a complete backward step in the patented process. But you see if you don’t grind up your dope then freeze it before using those bags you would only get the results as if you sieve with out ice water, it gives a small amount Ice hash, but ruins the rest into powdery product, every step goes against the patented method which is to extract the trichomes unbroken as pure as possible!
These cheap fabric bags have been sold at wedding dress prices and they actually destroy and waste your dope. The public once it sees the correct method understand they have been ripped off. Ice water extraction made sieving obsolete. The Skunkman is the moving force behind this, it was he that influenced the Pollinator Company into breeching their contract, it was he that sold Robert C. Clarke into hijacking the invention for their own and using it to make himself famous as well as promote Clarke’s book and Milla’s new product the Isolater bag system. Clarke’s book left out the introduction of Ice Water Extraction at 1997 Cup because he believed Skunkman when he said patents would never be issued!
The first pirated system even used Xtractor diagrams to explain process! At first the Dutch felt threatened by this new technology, it would interfere with their traditional Pakistani and Morroccan market, it was too strong, in fact the original 25 Xtractor’s that were sold in Amsterdam in 1997 are still up and running and Ice Hash has taken over the market. In fact hash made from the original machines are sold as Nepalese, Lebanese, Indian to this day! The Skunkman convinced Milla from the Pollinator Company, Robert C. Clarke, Mel Frank, and anyone who would listen that the Inventor would never receive patents. In fact Clarke revised his book based on what Skunkman told him, that is why that part of the book falls apart, it was called back and added at the last moment. High Times were used from the very beginning in this fraud, and subsequently every Weed magazine celebrates Milla, Bubbleman, Skunkman!
The Skunkman continued to say they would never receive Euro and Canadian patent. The Bubbleman is a complete creation of the Skunkman. I was at the 2002 Toker’s Bowl in BC so I got to see this character up close. It’s funny that from simple curiosity, I have become an expert witness, and lead investigator in this case. How far did the Skunkman go in his duplicity and did he cross that criminal line by misrepresenting himself remains to be seen. I know that the Dutch question why he is a free man when the same offenses would put a Dutch man in prison? T
he Bubbleman is an out and out thief everything he does is suspect from his doctored photos to everything that comes out of his mouth. He has set hashish making back 500 years with 5-8 bag kits and would sell 20 bags kits if he could! The only trichomes he extracts is your money! If these people think that this is going away they are as wrong as the Skunkman was in 1997. It looks like Milla and Bubbleman are left holding the bag as legal precedings move forward. The patent is quite clear, that Ice Water Extraction made all traditional forms of making hashish obsolete. Believe me this Cabal tried to bury the inventor and his equipment, tens of thousands were spent in advertising fees so as to prevent my article from being published, but the Ice Water Extraction Method was bigger than anyone thought it had legs of it’s own. And in the end the original machine nearly ten years later is still the state of the art. Word of mouth advertisement and now the Xtractor has taken off all on it’s own.
These idiots actually set back hash making five hundred years these past ten years!! At the same time making fortunes selling fabric at wedding dress prices. Another fact is the cannabis as well as the ice hash made from it in California is the best in the world. The Coffee shops in Cali leave Amsterdam in the dust. Everyone knows the cannabis in Cali is the best in the world as well as the best Ice Hash. True Ice Water Extraction is now being taught which will lead to a real revolution in cannabis extracts, just like it did in Amsterdam! A method is going around that $40 worth of household materials builds extraction device that beats all the bag systems, and it is being taught for free by the inventor!
In all my nearly 60 years I have never been out and out bribed to keep my mouth shut until now. I rather be a broke ass hippie than turn my back on the culture I helped create and my beloved hashish. The Ice Water method is the biggest improvement in hashish making in 4000 years or more! The Inventor should be in the Counter Culture hall of Fame! Who has done more Albert Hoffman?
Skunkman, Milla, Robert C. Clarke, Mel Frank, Bubbleman, Neville, and others retarded the hashish making industry so they could profit. The Ice Water technique was so simple anyone can do it at home. These people did everything in their powers to keep the correct method from the public, instead reintroduced sieving along with the method in order to profit from the sale of cheap fabric bags. There instructions told you to grind up your dope, then freeze, then pass it thru 5-8 bag sieving system that virtually destroys 90% of your dope! It gives you a little Ice Hash, the rest powder from destroyed trichomes! The patent clearly states that now with the new technique that it was no longer necessary to process material and for the first time fresh material could be processed as the leaves in the Ice Water enviromeent stayed flexible, which allowed the frozen trichomes to fall off natural, without processing material or using solvents! The ice water method only uses one filter, 8 filters is redundant! I have witnessed bag users enlightenment when taught Ice Water Extraction correctly, immediately they understand they were ripped off. Learning the method is like smoking your first joint!
The Dutch and the Skunkman are trying to do what the governments and big pharm can’t, patent their strains. Funny in Skunkman’s case all the strains he brought originally from California he stole, just like he stole our method to rip off the entire world hash smoking culture! The author unselfishly gave seminars and taught the method at the 1997 High Times cannabis cup!
If the world at that point had been taught the method correctly it would have led to even bigger advances in our culture. Instead sieving was shoved back down our throats for the profit of a few! Clarke can’t go back and change his book, look at the patent and you see how full of himself he is. Clarke’s big was a mish mash of other people tales and stories, sometimes told third and fourth hand, so very little is true, the sources he used for the Hippie trail, whether the biggest blow lifes on the road. The Ice Water technique was bigger than anyone ever thought, it had it’s own legs. Though the tried to bury the inventor with lies and misinformation in the end the patented method will bury them. These people should hide in shame for what they have done to our great cannabis culture as well as our beloved product hashish!
Comments
The King of Nepal is delusional
I don't know who this author "the King of Nepal" is, but I can tell you that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I will only address what he has written about me, Mel Frank, but I will say that I don't believe anything else he has written regarding his "conspiracy."
I have never sold bubble bags or any other paraphrenalia or cannabis "equipment." I am a writer, photographer, and publisher. Since the early 1970s, I have sold only books and my photographs. I am also the publisher of Rob Clarke's book HASHISH!, which I also edited and provided many photographs for. Mr. King of Nepal sees conspiracies everywhere and imagines dark theories for all of his paranoic delusions. The last time I saw Mila (Pollinator company) or Skunkman was in 1996, when I was a judge at High Times Cannabis cup. At that time I received the manuscript for Rob Clarke's HASHISH!. I then spent almost two years editing, acquiring photographs, laying out, and typesetting in preparation for printing. In 1998, the first printing was recalled, but not for the nefarious reasons claimed by the King. The book was recalled simply because it fell apart at the color section due to a bad batch of binding glue.
This was an incredible blow to Red Eye Press, the publisher, as you can imagine what happens when you must recall thousands of books and cannot provide books that have been ordered and miss the window of opportunity for the publicity that accompanies a new release. I have cases of the original printing, and I can assure you that it does not differ in a single word from every copy that has been sold since. I'll submit one of those first copies and a most recent one for anyone's comparison. I can assure you as the publisher, that Rob Clarke has never changed a word of the manuscript from what he gave me in 1996. All of the changes were to his original submission were editorial, made by me, with never the intention of changing Rob's original intentions, but only to do what an editor does--correct and clarify.
Secondly, I photographed and co-authored with "K" from Trichome Technologies a major article in the April, 2000 issue 296 of High Times on making hashish in the water method and I quote:
"...water extraction [is] an excellent, if not preferable, alternative to traditional methods" (referencing dry sieving). This statement was in regards to making small quanitites in a jar of water at home using coffee filters.
Secondly, we described in the "Commercial Production" section that "most of the gizmos are commonly found or easily made. In this instance we did use two flexible screens obtained from the Pollinator Company, but for several years we used layers of cheescloth with good results."
What we did in that article was to tell High Times readers and all other interested parties how to make the best hashish the world had ever seen in an ice water bath and you could do it without purchasing anything. Everything depicted in the article could be done at home without any special equipment. You could use coffeee filters, cheescloth, ice, water and a bucket.
The idea that I have ever profited from this or any other procedure for making hashish or growing marijuana other than writing or publishing articles and books is an absolute lie, and I believe this article is libelous to all of the so-called conspirators this so-called "King" has named.
I also find it inconceivable that any reputable publication would have published such accusations and drivel without first contacting those whom the "King" has libeled so that they may respond before this crap was ever published.
Dear "King of Nepal," you are delusional and need help. I feel sorry for you.
Mel Frank, author of the Marijuana Grower's Guide Deluxe and the Marijuana Grower's Insider's Guide
King of Nepal
The famous, and infamous Joe Petri, King of Nepal, sent this article in here.
Thank you for your words Mel, it is a honor to see you post here and add clarification. The world is full of delusion due to the fact that everyone sees things differently. I hope you are not upset we allow this open site for such things. Without this opening up there would only be animosity left wending its way under all things.
Cannabis Farmer only sees mudbags as a consumer rip off. As you well point out the best is easily available with a container of ice water and coffee filters. For that reason the article is worthy of posting here. You can reply to konsupsa who is the King of Nepal.
Fire on the mountain
Are you sure that you guys want to align yourselves with Joe Pietri? Don't give me any crap about free speech, the dude has gone way the fuck over the line here man. Reinhart could have thrown a rock down at the market and the first girl it hit would have made a better partner than this raving lunatic. Joe showed up to this game with an insufficient amount of marbles to play it. Shall we all just get our panties in a wad and finger each other like this chump is doing? That sure as fuck is not what you guys taught me was an option.
Wise up,
This http://www.cannabisfarmer.com/images/bubble1.jpg is crap. I have lived among you and I have smoke it more times than I would have liked. From the trichome stalks to the leaf matter to the doug fir needles to the wtf is that? Cat hairs? It's all crap. Learn something about the anatomy of a trichome and realize that it all happens -from start to finish- inside the head and all else is garbage. The stipe cell and everything below is trash. Terpinoids do not "leak" out when preforming correct separation of trash from the "dope" <-- lol. Nice choice of words by the way, have some friggen respect for the subject matter Joe. Every single argument you've had on this is as thin as hell man.
Combining sieving with h2o extraction (which none of y'all invented) was a brilliant move. Get over it!
Furthermore, the folks you are attacking are in a whole different league and I mean by far. You have been too busy reminiscing about the glory days and patting yourselves on the back instead of learning this shit for yourselves. Sam doesn't give a fuck about female seeds. He is fixing chemotypes via selfing, the most efficient way to go about it, pick up a book for fucks sake - add the Y back if you like. I didn't hear any whining while you guys were growing the old female NL line from seed produced via ga3 for decades? The only GMO cannabis work to date has been with polygalacturonase inhibitory proteins to make hemp fungus resistant and Sam ain't your man. Y'all have been spending way too much time at the bottom of the hill listening to conspiracy theories me thinks.
Make up your friggen minds whether or not you have love for the plant or love for the confrontation because there is zero percentage in your guys' current tactics.
-fucking embarrassed as all hell man-
knowledge is power..
you seem to know a little more. I seek to learn some more. What is the best method you would use to produce something that is not 'crap'?
Fascinating, isn't it? Truth
Fascinating, isn't it?
Truth comes out in the end product.
I remember arguing about the differences in hand rubbed Manali and first dusting of Mazar-i cream. To me there was a nice difference in flavor and certainly hand rubbed had more impurities than the dust scraped from the storage vaults in Mazar.
We beat the hell out of the mud bags, and really find them not up to the job. You really only need a bucket, cold water, ice and a screen to bring out the best of the plant. Whatever you get at the bottom just toss in a coffee filter to drain the water.
Mud bags, 1, 3, 5, 100 drain your energy, beat the crap out of the plant and bring you a lot of shit you have to sift through. As the guy pointed out (as bad as he did that) the MAIN source of THC is in the gland and you want that unharmed. All parts of the plant have THC, even the leaf (albeit only a little - not worth the headache). The stems too, and the trick is to get an undamaged head, not smashed, not squished, a full head. So an undamaged head still on the little stem, which contains more THC than most mid-west weed, is as good as it gets, in nature.
To get this I really love that icecool.org xtractor. Why? It is stainless steel! I have had mine for 3+ years and everyone here uses it. 100's of runs, many kilos! It has 2 stainless steel bodies; one with a 150mm stainless steel mesh at the bottom is inserted into another. There is about 1/4 inch air for insulation between the two and it keeps cool! Important. It is designed with a vector tuned plastic funnel that swirls the product around instead of allowing it to be beaten to death. You get to see it all in the clear plastic. A golden white river of crystal THC falling into a collection jar and in an hour you have a lot of pure hash.
If you have cats around, leave it in your pocket, drop it you will pick up more impurities. Big deal.
If you want pure, you have to do the extractions via chemistry. Bring it to honey oil or a pure powdered state. We used to do honey in Pakistan and it is just too dense for the lungs to take. You have to use so little it takes the fun out of the social smoke, or vaporizer.
I will get out the video on this and maybe post it. Right now I am finishing a cloning video to help people make the most of their plants.
Sam Skunk Man Speaks
Well, guess we have some honor to have you here Sam. You know me but you do not. You see me but you do not know me. But we speak. Do you hear?
Here is the link to get a copy of the King of Nepal. Sort of the life story of Joe without too much of the real juice.
If there is one thing I know the Xtractor beats mudd bags 10 to 1. There is no comparison.
As to the shame, well as you can see you may see it differently. I have seen some of your emails from many years ago Sam and it looks like another "ideas can’t be patented" thing and the money thing got a grip on ya'all.
I was there when the Bombay runs were flowing out with custom American Touristers and was the first to bring the Afghan honey home to mama. I am not Joe Petri but I know all the players.
I write reviews (here is one on the Xtractor hashish with pictures) and your bags, well, we call them mudd bags. The one extractor we have in our province is used by lots of cultivators and we all know what the deal is. The mudd bags hang in the local auto body shop as a testicle to lost money, time and good product.
SHAME!!!
The author of the book "the King of Nepal" Joe Pietri admits in the book to informing on others to get out of jail, this is not a guy you want to believe...
His story above is so full of lies and misinfornation that if corrected would leave no story at all.
He is someone who missed the boat in life and now wants to share his anger at life with others. Look at whom he is calling shit, these people have done more for the Cannabis world then most, yet he sees only greed and anger because these people are according to Joe fooling everyone and really the Xtractor 1000 is so much better then any other method to extract hash...
What a joke...
Sure everyone else is stupid and only you know what is best..
I have friends with his Xtractor, Bubblebags, Millas washing machines, they say the Xtractor is overpriced and not better.
But then I wonder why the hash I smoked with Joe at the 2006 HT Cup was so bad? It was made with his machine! He also told me the hash he smoked of mine was the best he had smoked in years, and it was not made with his machine, but WTF, he is always telling lies...
WARNING be carefull of this guy he is dangerous and has cooperated with the police in the past, read his book, it is in there.
-SamS